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And he is good in as far as he is wise, and bad in as far as he

is foolish?

Yes.

And you would say the same sort of thing of the physician?

Yes.

And do you think, my excellent friend, that a musician when he

adjusts the lyre would desire or claim to exceed or go beyond a

musician in the tightening and loosening the strings?

I do not think that he would.

But he would claim to exceed the non-musician?

Of course.

And what would you say of the physician? In prescribing meats and

drinks would he wish to go beyond another physician or beyond the

practice of medicine?

He would not.

But he would wish to go beyond the non-physician?

Yes.

And about knowledge and ignorance in general; see whether you

think that any man who has knowledge ever would wish to have the

choice of saying or doing more than another man who has

knowledge. Would he not rather say or do the same as his like in

the same case?

That, I suppose, can hardly be denied.