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1. Some Pleasures of this class are actings of a low nature,

whether congenital as in brutes, or acquired by custom as in low

bad men.

2. Others are in the nature of cures, cures that is of some

deficiency; now of course it is better to have [the healthy

state] originally than that it should accrue afterwards.

(But some Pleasures result when natural states are being

perfected: these therefore are good as a matter of result.)

Again, the very fact of their being violent causes them to be

pursued by such as can relish no others: such men in fact create

violent thirsts for themselves (if harmless ones then we find no

fault, if harmful then it is bad and low) because they have no

other things to take pleasure in, and the neutral state is

distasteful to some people constitutionally; for toil of some

kind is inseparable from life, as physiologists testify, telling

us that the acts of seeing or hearing are painful, only that we

are used to the pain and do not find it out.