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When they make them rightly, they make them agreeably to their

interest; when they are mistaken, contrary to their interest; you

admit that?

Yes.

And the laws which they make must be obeyed by their

subjects,-and that is what you call justice?

Doubtless.

Then justice, according to your argument, is not only obedience

to the interest of the stronger but the reverse?

What is that you are saying? he asked.

I am only repeating what you are saying, I believe. But let us

consider: Have we not admitted that the rulers may be mistaken

about their own interest in what they command, and also that to

obey them is justice? Has not that been admitted?

Yes.