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Yes, Cleitophon, but he also said that justice is the interest of

the stronger, and, while admitting both these propositions, he

further acknowledged that the stronger may command the weaker who

are his subjects to do what is not for his own interest; whence

follows that justice is the injury quite as much as the interest

of the stronger.

But, said Cleitophon, he meant by the interest of the stronger

what the stronger thought to be his interest,-this was what the

weaker had to do; and this was affirmed by him to be justice.

Those were not his words, rejoined Polemarchus.

Never mind, I replied, if he now says that they are, let us

accept his statement. Tell me, Thrasymachus, I said, did you mean

by justice what the stronger thought to be his interest, whether

really so or not?

Certainly not, he said. Do you suppose that I call him who is

mistaken the stronger at the time when he is mistaken?