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But to be perfectly accurate, since you are such a lover of

accuracy, we should say that the ruler, in so far as he is a

ruler, is unerring, and, being unerring, always commands that

which is for his own interest; and the subject is required to

execute his commands; and therefore, as I said at first and now

repeat, justice is the interest of the stronger.

Indeed, Thrasymachus, and do I really appear to you to argue like

an informer?

Certainly, he replied.

And do you suppose that I ask these questions with any design of

injuring you in the argument?

Nay, he replied, 'suppose' is not the word-I know it; but you

will be found out, and by sheer force of argument you will never

prevail.